I have fine curly hair that needs body and definition. Usually by the time I've used enough product to do that, my hair is weighted down too much, but these products worked for me. The No-Poo shampoo, despite what you might think about a shampoo that doesn't lather, works great. People who said their hair did not feel clean may not have rinsed it out thoroughly. The conditioner was so rich, I needed to be sure not to use too much, and also to rinse it out thoroughly. The gel was a bit too "light." I like a lot of control to hold my curls. Although my curls with this gel were much looser, they were still super shiny with almost no fuzziness. Lastly, all three of these products have very strong odors. Lemon/citrus is the most dominant. The shampoo has also got another strong, unpleasant odor like permanent wave solution. The conditioner and gel have, in addition to the overpowering lemon smell, a woodsy plant smell like dog shampoo. The odors from these products are still permeating my hair 24 hours after I last used them, so it's not good, but it's something I can overlook if the products work well for me in the long run. Time will tell.