These have lasted through so much in the 4 months I have had them. They are used for workouts, under swim trunks that don't have any liner, in place of swim trunks, under work wear, and lazy days at home.
They won't bunch up much, they won't droop and drag. They last through repeated water, and oh yeah the highly chemed up pool waters.
The pocket is useful for hotel keys (work out/pool), and cruise sea pass (all day long, and toss in an ID for shore excursions that aren't too active).
Can't wait to try out other Tommy John items, and buy more of these.