I don't know just how much these were intended for skiing and snowboarding. I used them for that last week and the pull back tips were all frozen by the early afternoon and I only fell a couple of times up to that point. Its more important to have better gloves that will stay dray and just take them off if you need to access your phone.
I really like these gloves, makes me feel and look cool. Cold season just started here so im not able to wear them everyday yet.