I really wanted to like these. I'm a sucker for reds and mattes. Application was painful and for so little color payoff/pigment. Right away, I knew woo had to go back. It may be a combination of the formula and my skin tone, but it is not a true red, it was warm/orangey. That would not be a problem, but the color / product had the effectiveness of a crayola crayon. After multiple applications, it still wasn't showing up as I desired. Raz seemed ok, so I thought I would keep it. But I tried it again last night and had to go over my lips, pressing firmly, and I still wasn't pleased with the look.
I wished these worked for me but both will have to go back.